because it dragged out it became the bloomberg-obama background check. when that happened, it never had a chance. >> timing means a lot. i am not sure whether republicans, any republicans will pay a price for this, or any democrats. i think charles had it right. it is a one issue vote for people who view their gun rights is threatened. if it is part of a larger picture of republicans as s, if there ist not an immigration bill, democrats will be able to profit from it. >> does the president take responsibility for this? >> he lost. whether you win or lose matters a lot, especially in the second term where -- with his ability to get things done. and you lost on the weakest of all the items. i think mark is right. this was a test. republicans, the ones that wanted to filibuster made a huge mistake and were saved by harry reid. it was a disaster to propose a filibuster. there are samet democrats that'll end up undermining it and you will have to -- you know there are senate democrats of will end up undermining it. it was a very short sighted on the part of t